Item Views: 6750. Along with the former Soviet Union, the one Eastern European nation that did not export their Tokarev copies is Hungary. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Yugo m57 serial numbers. The U.S. Army Model 1911 pistol was of course known in Russia, and it is likely that the developments taking place in France (by Petter at Cholet) and at Neuhausen in Switzerland were also known. Following Poland, it appears that both Romania and Yugoslavia began exporting their surplus licensed Tokarev pistols with the former appearing about 1997 up until 2013, when supposedly the final lots were received. REDSTAR ORDNANCE. Known as the TTC or Tulskiye Tokarev Cugir, they were produced at the Romanian military arms factory at Cugir and remained in regular service until the Romanian revolution of 1989. The serial number to record in your bound book is the M57-0xxxx not the one on the right side frame/slide. Where Can You Find the Serial Number? Yugoslavia's People's Liberation(AVNOJ). 7/1/21 - This is a nice example of a Yugoslavian M57 made in the 1960's. It is a copy of the Soviet Tokarev TT-33. Observed specimens dated as late as 1935 (No. The neck plate. Pistol is dated 1959 and manufactured in factory 66. Save my name and email to use for future comments. Yugo crest on the top of the slide. The earlier pistols, in both versions, have serial numbers without prefix letters. A forum community dedicated to AK rifle and AK variant rifle owners and enthusiasts. Trademark Serial Number is a Unique ID to identify the TOKAREV USA mark in USPTO. Obviously these are qualities most desirable in a military weapon. This virtually eliminates breakage. This changed model is often referred to as the Model 33 Tokarev, but it is not believed to be official nomenclature. For this reason the M-57 is advertised in the United States as an M-57A, the A indicating alteration for installation of the required safety. Nagant or the Belgian Pieper of the same caliber. The Czech CZ 52 is the only "un-Tokarev" of the communist Eastern European semiautomatic pistol designs in the Soviet caliber of 7.62x25mm. While the original Mod. Neck heel. One specimen, No. Many Ibanez electric guitars can be identified by the serial code. The hand-scratched numerals inside on all of the parts, even the grips, is matching meaning the factory worker who constructed the gun handled each part without any piece swaps. In regression, as the original Tokarevs sole safety feature is a half-cock position on the hammer, the BATFE-added trigger safety is located beneath the slide catch. The particular cartridge used is almost identical to and interchangeable with the German Mauser 7.63 mm. Though noble in concept, the unsightly addition simply detracts from the Tokarevs original cosmetics. M57A is an upgrade of basic model M57. The Belgian numbering series was continued through 1917, when manufacture was interrupted. The lettering around the star on the grip changed from FNRJ to SFRJ in 1963. Average muzzle velocity for the 7.62 x25 mm is in the 1,230 to 1,350 feet per second range, however, the surplus Czech M 48 submachine gun cartridge attains a whopping 1,730 fps on average. I picked up an Yugo M57 Tokarev in damned nice condition over the weekend. The presence of the earlier serration pattern suggests that the Polish pistols were made on old tools and fixtures supplied from Russia. The left grip piece has a large triangular panel containing the letters FB (for Fabryka Bronn), the design being the same as the present on the VIS 35; the right grip piece also has a large triangle, but this contains the overlapping letters WP. For verification purposes, even though the expiration date on the registration certificate may not match the expiration date in the FAA Aircraft . Similar to that of the German MG 42 machine gun, the CZ 52s beefy lock-up system has never been applied to another semiautomatic pistol. Grip: black plastic. Note: As of 2012 M57A, M70A and M88A are imported into the U.S. by Century International Arms. The It should be noted that many manufactures don't have complete records themselves so any progress given here are based on what we know we still have to complete for a given manufacturer and may still be missing serial numbers after '100% complete'. Serial Number I-114758. There were some minor changes in history of production of M57 pistols. 5.Interesting ( unusual) marks. The State Factory 66-manufactured all-steel 213 is nearly identical to the Russian TT-33 Tokarev with one key difference: an additional frame mounted safety. Adopted in 1957, it was a licensed copy of the Soviet Tokarev TT pistol, although the M57 has longer grip that hosted longer magazine (9 rounds versus 8 rounds in TT). This also reduced cost as it permits lathe production. These pistols come with one 9rd magazine. These can be eliminated by grinding off the inner surface of the extractor hook. Chambered for the powerful, high-velocity bottlenecked 7.62x25mm cartridge, the Tokarev was well known, but not readily available in the West for over five decades. Apparently, the engineers at Yugoslavias former state factory at Zastava sought to improve building a better Tokarev using reverse engineering. In the beggining grip pannels were marked FNRJ (Federative National Republic Jugoslavia), after year 1962 the mark changed to SFRJ (Socialistic Federative Republic Jugoslavia). Many of the TTC pistols included an original military-style brown flap holster and a cleaning rod, and the majority were refinished and in crisp mechanical condition. Year of Manufacture: 1940. The grips seem incorrect. ), Firearm Dealers / Gun Shops / Firearms Training Facilities. The red-lined Bakelite grips are retained by a U clip and unless reworked, most pistols have a phosphate-like finish similar to Parkerization. Several U.S. importers have handled the M-57/57A with import marks of various countries of origin from within the former Yugoslav republics. First one, tt-33 1940 "" ("Uchebniy") meaning "training" (or "Practice") is pictured on pages 82 -82 of the book. I got the 7.62x25 with a 9mm conversion kit, but can't fall out of love with the 7.62x25 enought to swap it. In addition to the availability of these pistols for the past two-plus decades, American shooters can also consider themselves quite fortunate to have been able to obtain substantial quantities of 7.62x25mm surplus ammunition. Very hard to obtain a collector license for it, but legally owned! (they began using Soc Sec numbers after that) I enlisted in July,1963--I think the #s came from the recruiting district you came from--Mine began with 18 & i heard that series was for the N.Y./ The serial number suggests 1960 1961. The Model 213 is a copy of the Soviet TT-33 Tokarev pistol. Serial#: Cyrillic marking, Romanized as CheD1203. It's matching with one matching mag. Stechkin (APS) which is of the selective fire type and is provided with a shoulder stock-holster similar to the one furnished by Mauser for their military pistol. The Chinese use kind of a formula. Stock Status: (Out of Stock) Product Code: DFS-861 Description Original Serbian production 9 round Magazine for the Zastava (Serbian / Yugoslav) M57 (Tokarev TT) Pistol in caliber 7.62x25mm. For that short period of time in the mid- to late-1990s, the limited numbers of Russian-made TT-33 pistols imported by Century International from the Ukraine were equipped with a mandatory aftermarket manual trigger safety required by federal law. Seller: Cabelas Charleston. Practically identical to the Polish version, its major differences are the narrow, rear slide grip serrations, whereas the Polish copy had the spaced oval serrations, similar to those found on the original Russian TT-33. The Soviet version has a five-point star with CCCP in between the star points (USSR in the Cyrillic alphabet), whereas the hard rubber grips on the Polish copy have vertical striated lines from top to bottom minus the circle and star logo. The Yugoslav M-57 is believed to have first appeared on the U.S. surplus market sometime around 2000 to 2004. The action of this unique eight-shot, single-action pistol utilizes a roller-locked, short-recoil system equipped with a cam block that is quite efficient at allowing the use of both standard velocity or high-pressure submachine gun ammunition. It came completely coated and soaked in cosmoline. These are the 9 mm. Top slide stamped with Chinese characters, the serial number, 66 and 1964. Civilian M57 pistols have serial numbers that starts with letter "C". The serial number puts its manufacture date somewhere in the mid 1960's. I had that thing in about as many pieces as I could, including tearing apart the mags to get the cosmoline off. Picked up a yugo m57 (with the democrat safety) I was wondering if anyone had the breakdown for the serial numbers for what year. It is of course not to their discredit that they took the best features of existing automatics and added to them features and simplifications of their own. cartridge, thus simplifying the ammunition problem for whoever captured the other's ammunition dumps! There has been no opportunity to examine these pistols. Army, Navy, Police. The Yugoslavian Model-57 Tokarev was manufactured by the Crvena Zastava factory in Kragujevac, Yugoslavia. A slight variant of the Polish-made Tokarev appeared in East Germany, probably made at Radom as it appears identical to the one known to be made there, the only apparent difference being in the use of plain, unmarked, serrated grip pieces. FB continued to remain active following the end of World War II when Soviet domination dictated Polands governmental affairs. Can anyone tell me if the Service Numbers they used (prior to using Soc Sec #'s) indicated the State the person was from?for instance were the first couple of numbers a code for the state the person came from? Google suggests that the 66 stamp might be the Mukden Arsenal, but I'm not sure if that's correct. Loose pin holes tightened by staking One to four punch marks put on the sight rib to indicate accuracy, one being best The letters VOZ (military repair plant) plus the last two digits of the year (of re-work) stamped above the trigger. Come join the discussion about optics, builds, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. We must remember that the Balkan wars in Bosnia and Kosovo ended just a short time earlier and most of the old Yugoslav republics hung on to much of their obsolete surplus firearms. Czech militarys reasoning behind this was to allow the use of one cartridge for both pistol and submachine gun, a logistically clever move precluding the requirement to maintain and identify two varieties of cartridges for two different firearms. Thank you, interesting pistol, but location -Romania.Cristi ,you can legally own the gun in Romania now? ADDITIONAL DETAILS: This tool currently checks for: Low Numbered: Serial #'s Under 10. Observed specimens dated as late as 1935 (No. Barrel: 10 1/2 inch round. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The best advice is not to use the de-cock feature at all on a loaded CZ 52 chamber. I dont know as anyone has archived the serial no.s for the Romainian AKs. 1, with the pistols supplied from Russia, and at last report was well over 100,000 and probably actually much larger. Basically the pistol is a Colt (or Browning), but with many changes and simplifications. Design-wise, no screws are used in its construction and its multiposition, manually operated safety system allows it to be de-cocked and locked with a round in the chamber as the firing pin has a sear block system allowing safe carry. First off, the grip of the M-57 is some 15 millimeters longer than the standard Tokarev and was purposely lengthened to accept a nine-round magazine. 19,696 (with no letter prefix), dated 1952 and having Chinese characters on the right side has been encountered. Knife bayonet for use with the 7.62 mm. From what I've seen online, K series numbers are the 1973 year makes, but their numbers are only from 132.000 to 140.000. The magazine holds 8 cartridges and is unique in construction in that it can be taken apart for repairs. Description. Obviously these are qualities most desirable in a military weapon. Stechkin (APS) which is of the selective fire type and is provided with a shoulder stock-holster similar to the one furnished by Mauser for their military pistol. Import mark on the left side of the slide. Serial numbers are located on the left frame and upper slide along with the year of manufacture and Factorys Circle 11 logo. Any ideas anyone. 1933-1945: Mauser Lugers. Post yours here if you want it added. Please see the pictures for more . The number following VOZ, usually number 1, identifies the plant. These will have the sought after yugo crest on top of the slide. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The TOKAREV USA mark is filed in the category of Firearm Products , Advertising, Business & Retail Services . Learn how your comment data is processed. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. It is interesting to note that the Soviets are moving toward larger-caliber pistols while the NATO countries are moving in the opposite direction. Some were made to add strength where it was needed, and others were made for purposes of simplification and economy. and it was most certainly not the fascist Nazi invaders. meeting, this assembly drew up a single page document that contained Any help identifying what year I'd appreciate if anyone can figure out why. Finish: black paint. This pistol was definitely made in Russia, as it corresponds in all respects with the known Soviet-made pistols, with the exception of the number and Chinese marking. It has that been there and done that look. Anyway, I fear you are going to be frustrated in your search. German: German Mfg. Its most outstanding features are its ruggedness, its certainty of action, and its simplicity of construction, which not only make it easy to assemble and disassemble but, most importantly, makes it cheap to produce in quantity. Welcome aboard. M70AA is an upgrade of basic model M70. Rather crude checkered wood grip pieces were used by some, though most of them used serrated black plastic grip pieces, bearing a circled star and the initials CCCP (equivalent to our USSR). September 28, 2009, 06:49 AM #3: Hawg. Occasional failures to extract may occur. Feb 23, 2011 $200 I can hit the black on a rifle target at 100 yards no problem. Earlier specimens have a pattern consisting of 7 wide and 7 narrow alternating serrations. In the beginning, it appears that one of the earliest semiautomatic pistols in 7.62mm Tokarev caliber introduced to U.S. shores was the indigenously designed Czechoslovakian CZ-52. I own a Zastava M57 Tokarev (7.62.X25). When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. It was taken from a dead North Vietnamese officer by Lieutenant . Cartridges are guided into the chamber in a very positive manner not dependent on the lips of the magazine, which in this instance are quite flat. Ok, I might have figured it out. All pistols have a two-digit date code immediately after the serial number that represents the year of manufacture. The duration of aircraft registration certificates has been extended up to 7 years. The last Belgian contract expired some time in 1898 or 1899 and manufacture of the Nagant began at Tula in 1900. Cartridge jamming consequently is rare. 8 round capacity, correct? However, a discussion on Serial Number is K-241.***. The number of digits in the serial number may run as high as five. These are very popular surplus firearms as they are affordable and plentiful. The first two digits should be added to 1953 to find the year of manufacture. It has an external safety. From what I've seen online, K series numbers are the 1973 year makes, but their numbers are only from 132.000 to 140.000. In Russia, My comrade " AMS " put together more data , he try to collect numbers from all Russian Tokarev pistol existing around the world. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! What exactly KB means other than starting a new sequence, I dont know. 90% blue, good bore, 4.5" barrel, and excellent grips. The Zastava M57 pistol was adopted as the standard sidearm of Yugoslavian Army in 1957. Mechanically identical to TT-33, its hard rubber grips do not have the star in a circle and are straight lined. The pistol has been designed to operate as a single action firearm that utilizes an external hammer. The M-57 is chambered for the 7.62 x 25mm Tokarev round. Nagant or the Belgian Pieper of the same caliber. Senior Member . The new versions of the M57A/M70A also feature a magazine safety and render the gun unable to fire unless a magazine is inserted into the grip frame. One arsenal at Tula used checkered hard rubber grip pieces with a circled triangle containing an arrow with the letters CCCP outside the triangle. To verify a 1941 sniper you should follow these steps: 1) check the rear side of the receiver, rifle should have grooves (rails) for the sniper mount and a notch for the mount cross pin (shape should be similar to shape of the notch on the image below); 2) rifle should be manufactured by Tula factory No.314; On April 5, 2005 the factory changed its name to Zastava oruzje(arms) AD, and is still located in Kragujevac, but the country is now known as Serbia.. 30 was improved, the barrel-locking lugs being replaced with an integral circumferential band, which provided more strength. as none of us were known for having long conversations with each other. Replacement Grip Set for Tokarev TT-33 / Zastava M57, Made in USSR Original Soviet Russian TT Tula Tokarev Tarpaulin Holster. Is there a way to tell when it was made via serial number range or something?
